M3: I'm new to the project. I'm Amy Moore, and I'm a teacher at Lane Tech High School in the Art Department, there. I teach ceramics and sculpture, there, and [Art 4] and computer graphics.

M: Who's at Lane Tech, now? I mean…

M3: A lot of people just turned over.

M: I know.

M3: Rick Shay, Anne Greeny, Cobb Grey is an administrator. Leticia Appleberry, [inaudible] and Christina [inaudible].

M: Okay. I kind of thought of placing student teachers there for a variety of reasons, as you might imagine. But we'd like to start again. I place student teachers in art for UIC.

M2: Amy, you weren't at our first meeting, but I know that you've been sort of keeping up with us. Do you have an idea for a project?

M3: I haven't started, yet. I'm thinking about working on sculptural ideas. Possibly murals, too, in two different sets of classes, and just general lessons from the web.

M2: You'd probably want to take your own pictures, since our pictures are only from the South side.

M3: Right. Are you doing things on the North side at all on the database?

M2: We'll be very happy to put your stuff on the database. We just simply can't cover the entire city. Secondly, we don't want little bits and pieces from here and there. But when a teacher develops a whole project, that's fine. I forgot to ask Christy, and she's the most important [inaudible]

M4: I wouldn't say that.

M2: She wasn't at the last meeting, so you all don't know her.

M4: My name is Christie Thomas. I know…actually, I don't know, which is normally the case. I'm Assistant Director for the Digital Library Project. I want to thank Jay, first of all, for putting so much effort into gathering us all here, today.

M2: Thank you. Mary Ellen.

V3: Okay. I'm Mary Ellen Ziegler. I have two ideas that I would like to use this project for. One is using the Sculpture Garden at the Smart Museum. To have students create their own sculptures in a style of whatever emotion is drawn out of the sculptures that they select from the Sculpture Garden. They would create their own sculptures. The other idea was using Olivia's mural, "Where are we going? Where are we coming from?" Or is it the other way around?

Olivia Gude: "Where are we coming from? Where are we going?"

V3: And I thought maybe that my middle school students because we're closing out our 7th and 8th grade, would be very interested in possibly doing a version of, "Where are we going and what will we bring back?"

M2: That's very nice. I like the idea of having kids come up with an art project, as well as maybe history.

V3: Right.

M2: You introduced yourself, but you didn't say what you do.

V3: Oh. I'm the Fine Arts teacher at Murray Language Academy.

M2: You're also director of the project.

V3: Yes.

M: I actually don't know the name of the project.

M2: It doesn't have a very fancy name. It's called the eCUIP Public Art Project.

M: eCUIP?

M2: Yes. Actually…

M4: I think that what has come out of Jay's mind, by default, I think it's going to be named, "Art All Around Us."

M4: We have a grant from the Women's Board of the University of Chicago. It's allowing us to pay these wonderful people to develop curriculum around the public art in the neighborhood.

M2: Christie, I judge from Olivia's question that she seems to be in the dark about the whole thing. Why don't you tell her about CUIP and eCUIP?

M4: Okay. Sure. eCUIP is a digital library project. It came about around four years ago. It's an initiative of the Chicago Public Schools/University of Chicago Internet Project. It's a grant project out of the University of Chicago, and it partners with 29 Chicago Public Schools in the Hyde Park, Kenwood, Oakland and Woodlawn neighborhoods. The goal is to help them get all of the wiring and power in and the computers in so they have the infrastructure and the technology in the classroom to train the teachers how to use the technology and then help them figure out the best ways of using that technology for access to primary source materials, such as images of the public art in Hyde Park, in this instance, as well to develop new and innovative ways of enhancing the curriculum through the use of technology. That's the goal of the project as a whole.

V4: Christie, I remember seeing you at WIT.

M4: Exactly!

V4: I knew I'd seen you someplace. I was thinking of the courses last year at the University of Chicago.

Olivia Gude: I didn't get your last name.

M4: My last name is Thomas.

Olivia Gude: I couldn't possibly go to a meeting without taking notes. I'm sort of like if I take notes, I really focus in a way. If I'm not, I'm just wanting to…

M2: Helena just mentioned another acronym. You can learn thousands of acronyms. WIT is a Web Institute for Teachers, which is a summer program for teachers to learn how to put together some of this. To develop their projects on the web. That's a very great program.

Olivia Gude: That's out of U of C, too?

M4: Yes.

M2: The whole thing is out of U of C. But both the teachers at WIT and the teachers in this project are not necessarily from among those 29 schools she mentioned.

Olivia Gude: Right.

M2: But the pictures we've taken, more or less are related to the area of those 29 schools.

Olivia Gude: Right.

M2: So let's go on.

Olivia Gude: Who teaches at Lane Tech? I didn't get your name in my mind.

M3: Amy Moore.

Olivia Gude: Amy Moore. Thanks.

V2: Okay. My name is Origa Koran Brown. I go by my maiden name, Koran. Some people who are familiar with my husband when they hear that we're related, they get a little bit depressed. When they hear about my dad and my connection to my father, they have a little bit more joyous feeling. So I chose to go back to my maiden name. I'm at Fernwood, helping out Madame Bonaparte. I'm working with her Special Ed students. So whatever I focus, I'll be developing curriculum for Special Ed students.

M4: Wonderful.

M2: That would be great.

M2: That would be wonderful to have something on a Special Ed level.

Olivia Gude: What's your name?

V2: Origa. It's Greek for Golden Chariot.

Olivia Gude: I just already discovered that her dad was on the support committee for the Roseland Pullman mural. I have pictures of him and your brothers playing at the dedication.

V2: I'd like to see that.

M2: Is that the Bernard Williams mural?

Olivia Gude: No, no. The mural's on 113th Street and Cottage Grove. It's actually a really big mural there that's on both sides of the underpasses.

V2: That's the one we're going to be working on in the Pullman district.

M2: Did you do that?

Olivia Gude: Yes. Me and Marcus [inaudible] and John [inaudible] worke on it.

V2: Great! It worked out real good.

M2: Would you like to introduce yourself?

V4: Helena Bonaparte. I'm at Fernwood, also. As you know, we're going to be working with the Pullman District. Olivia's been kind enough to give us some input and some wonderful ideas on what do with our students, as far as curriculum to get them involved in actual projects.

Olivia Gude: We've just been talking about…

V4: Right. [inaudible]

Olivia Gude: But this could be great. Where is Fernwood?

V4: At 100th and Union.

Olivia Gude: And what…?

V4: It's Fernwood.

Olivia Gude: Is it an elementary school?

V4: It's elementary.

Olivia Gude: Right. I'm going to be working at the Evers School, starting in May. It's at 95th and it's right close to you. It must be only half a mile away.

V4: I know of it.

V2: Does anybody have any background on Fernwood Community? I've heard rumors that I haven't been able to substantiate about Fernwood. It could be like urban legend. But I had heard that Fernwood was a community founded by an Afro-American who had received his 40 acres and a mule, and the plot of land that he received was here in Illinois. The Fernwood community is actually 40 acres. It's very small. Our school is very small. That did happen. There are at least eight communities that I know of in the United States that are…There's a community called Annamule, and I think it's in Tennessee. Annamule, Tennessee. That's one of the 40-acre communities. So it was a small handful that actually did receive their 40 acres and a mule.

Olivia Gude: Very interesting.

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